Tony Martin Tuesdays (pt:2)

Welcome to Tony Martin Tuesdays.

Tony Martin and Scott Muller caught up recently for the first time since the mid-1990s.

You can read the first part of the interview here.

This week, Tony talks about … talking about management on-air, the myth of selling out, and the legendary Comedy Caravan atop the roof of Fox FM…


Scott: Continuing from last week’s discussion about ‘Jetpack Shows’, where the hosts and guests weave in and out of reality during an interview to, say, strap on a jetpack and fly down to the car park mid-interview … you can see surreal things like that happening on some television shows – the (Comedy Channel’s) Colbert Report is a great example.

Tony: Yes! And David Letterman used to do that really well. He would go “here’s what I did on the weekend” and you’d see him driving a monster truck into his house.

Scott: And within the surreal worlds and realities of shows like Letterman and the Colbert Report, they have to stay true to the characters and worlds they’ve created – even when bringing guests into their show’s world.

Tony: Yes, you’re creating a tone for the show. With Martin-Molloy we didn’t have massive arguments about that kind of thing, but occasionally there would be a guest who wouldn’t quite fit into the world of our show.

At the same time, the ‘internet era’ has brought more (honesty) … people can smell bullshit. Everything is out in the open now. Especially young people, they like people to be honest, talk about their faults. It’s great comedy, you can ‘get in first’ – it’s like when the school bully is coming at you – beat yourself up before he gets to you. The person who says the greatest truth has the last word.

We would do that on our shows. On ‘Get This’ we would discuss the behind-the-scenes discussion about a new, big feature. It was popular with listeners but not with managers. We would just talk about it on-air – and I think if you’re having a go at others, as we often would, it sounds obnoxious if you’re not simultaneously being rigorous about yourself, your own incompetence. If a sketch had a terrible impression in it, we would play it over and over and take the piss out of ourselves.

(For honesty), Howard Stern is the best example – his life is just an open book. We know everything about his personal deficiencies in all areas – it gives him licence to go hard on anyone else (who he’s interviewing). I found the Stern impersonators, they seemed to want to have a go at everyone else, but not themselves. You have to be aware and open about your own faults. People love that. Make it funny rather than indulgent.

And in all of the shows I’ve been on, our only reason (for doing anything) was because it would be funny. For example, with ‘Get This’, Ed erased a whole football game (from the playout system)! It became a running joke.

Scott: Moving onto the differences and similarities between commercial radio and the ABC, there’s a perception – possibly in the minds of people who start at the ABC - that if you move to commercial media you’re “selling out”.

Tony: Well, I’m from commercial radio. I started in commercial radio, and have spent more time in commercial radio than anywhere else – starting with Eon FM and Triple M, and The Late Show - which was an extension of our radio show. Then, bizarrely, this commercial show somehow ended up on the ABC. So then (because we’d just been at the ABC), when we did Martin-Molloy on Fox we were accused of selling out!

There is a long history of people from Triple J moving to Triple M, and they always seem self-conscious about selling out. There was a Triple J announcer years ago who would slag off (the commercial networks) while secretly trying to get poached by them!

But as for differences between the two, I’d say they’re largely the same. Once the song is finished and you’ve said your stuff, it’s the same. And on the shows I’ve done, they let us do anything. I remember on Martin-Molloy we claimed we’d found an old sketch from when Martin-Molloy was hosted by Cook and Moore (Peter Cook and Dudley Moore). And that was weirder and more bizarre than anything I’ve ever heard on the ABC. But because people kind of knew who Dudley Moore was, and there were enough ‘joke’ jokes in there, you didn’t need to have a working knowledge of Cook & Moore to understand the sketch.

(Mick and I) weren’t like a couple of anarchists. We’d do the time, the weather … if you embrace it (commercial radio) you can get away with anything.

Scott: I’ve been asked to get your story on the legendary Comedy Caravan. I remember it well – I used to stare out of my production studio window right at it, check whether you and Mick had arrived and whether it was time to drop everything else I was doing and start making that day’s sketches and bits for that afternoon’s show. Tell us how the Caravan came to be hoisted up onto the roof top out the back of Fox FM (in St Kilda Road).

Tony: I get asked more about that Caravan than about the show itself! I think Crud moved into it after we moved out. There are various stories about that shed – it’s sort of gone into legend.

I think we were originally aiming to be on Triple M but (instead) Brad March hired us. We pitched at Triple M, they turned us down, Brad picked us up. Then we found out during a staff announcement that Triple M was going to be blokey music and Fox FM was ‘chick music’. And I remember Mick and I going, “Hang on! Are we on the chick station?”. So we were on Fox and 2Day. It wasn’t a particularly blokey show – and we would throw to the dance version of songs like La Bouche and Ace of Base.

During that period (1995) Triple M was about to move into the floor below Fox FM. There was a whole floor with nothing in it, except a desk and a pile of papers – Peter Harvie’s office – who I consider to be a genius of radio (pictured). And Mick and I had no room on the Fox floor to work so we’d go down there. We got so much work done out the back. Peter would often be out the back having a smoke. So a lot of business was conducted in an alley.

Anyway, as Triple M moved onto the floor below Fox FM, suddenly there was no room. For a brief period we thought we were going to move in with MCM (further up St Kilda Road) – they were responsible for syndicating our show. (But) Brad March arranged for a workman’s hut to be craned up on top of the Fox FM building. So the real reason for the Caravan was that there was simply no room left for us to work.

I remember doing sketches with (audio production engineer) Vicki Marr, and we’d still be mixing them down as the show started! I would run around (from the back of the Fox rooftop to the front of the rooftop) into the station, into the studio, we’d have 3 minutes 50 of song left, and 3 minutes 40 of the sketch left to mix! So we didn’t have time to finish it properly – we had to whack a mic on the floor and lay down footstep sound effects live!

 

Read part 1 here

Read part 3 here

 

Scott Muller is Director of MBOS Consulting Group, a media management and consulting firm.

Click here to contact him.

Published on Tuesday, 10 July 2012 07:00

 Post Anonymously 

   I am a real live breathing human person

Universal Music has a vacancy for a National Artist Relations Manager. Details.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nova Entertainment has a vacancy for a Network Drive Audio Producer based in Sydney. Details.

 

 

SCA are looking for a Breakfast Announcer for Hot FM Cairns. Details.

 

 

 

i98FM has a vacancy for a Casual Journalist. Details.

 

 

 

6PR has a vacancy for an Assistant Producer for Drive.Details.

 

 

 

 

 

ARN has a vacancy for an Experienced Account Manager- Direct Sales based in Sydney. Details.

 

 

 

 
 

Southern Cross Austereo have a vacancy for a Breakfast Journalist at Sea FM & 2GO FM in Gosford. Details.

 

 

 

 

Crocmedia are looking to appoint a NSW Commercial Manager based in Sydney.Details.

 

.

ARN are looking for a Creative Writer on a six month contract based in Perth. Details.

 

 

 

 

 

Grant Broadcasters are looking for a 'Talk & Information Personality' based in Launceston. Details.

 

 

 

SCA has a vacancy for a Breakfast Producer in regional W.A. Details.

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 

Nova 106.9 is looking for Casual Announcers. Details.

 

 

 

 
 

ARN has a vacancy for a Digital Content Producer on a six month contract based in Sydney. Details.

 

 

 

ARN has a vacancy for a Junior Audio Producer based in Sydney. Details.

 

 

Omny has a vacancy for an Operations Manager based in Melbourne. Details.

 

 

 

 

 

Geelong's K-ROCK and Bay FM are looking for a Promotions Guru. Details.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 

Recent Comments

Jamie Row has moved from Nova Brisbane to smoothfm Sydney as Operations Manager/Floater.

Joseph Groth is heading to the Sunshine Coast as the new Music Director & Mornings announcer of  91.9 Sea FM.

 

 

Scott McLaughlin  National Client Solutions Director for Southern Cross Austereo is leaving the company.  

Gavin Flanagan has been appointed the new GM of River 949 Ipswich.

 
 

River 949 GM David Greenwood is moving to the new role as GM of the Kix Radio Network (still with Grant Broadcasters)

 

Conrad Browne will finish as General Manager with JOY 94.9 in June.

 
 

Pete Davidson is the Capital Radio Network new Group PD.

James Perrin is the new PD for Grant Broadcasters 2EC/PowerFM Bega. 

 

 

Former Nova exec Wade Kingsley is joining SCA in a new national leadership role as Head of Ideas and Integration.

 

 
 
 

Steve Cairns has been appointed the new GM of Radio Tab

 
 
 

Nick Condon has left ARN to work with the South Australian Chamber of Commerce leading their digital department.


 

 

Most Read (Last 30 Days)

Adelaide Advertisers

1. Harvey Norman Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
2. Coles Coles Group Ltd (Wesfarmers Ltd)
3. Radio, It's A Love Thing Campaign Commercial Radio Australia Ltd
4. Puratap Puratap Pty Ltd
5. Sportsbet.com.au Sportsbet Pty Ltd

Brisbane Advertisers

1. National Tiles National Tiles Co Pty Ltd
2. Harvey Norman Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
3. Coles Coles Group Ltd (Wesfarmers Ltd)
4. Radio, It's A Love Thing Campaign Commercial Radio Australia Ltd
5. Spitwater Australia Spitwater Australia Pty Ltd

Central Coast Advertisers

1. Domayne Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
2. Harvey Norman Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
3. BJ Howes Metaland BJ Howes Pty Ltd
4. Never Let A Mate Walk Home Drunk Campaign Pedestrian Council Of Australia Ltd
5. Central Coast Holden Central Coast Holden

Gold Coast Advertisers

1. Harvey Norman Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
2. Domayne Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
3. Sanctuary Cove International Boat Show Mulpha Sanctuary Cove (Developments) Pty Ltd
4. Radio, It's A Love Thing Campaign Commercial Radio Australia Ltd
5. Concrete Finishers Warehouse Concrete Finishers Warehouse

Melbourne Advertisers

1. National Tiles National Tiles Co Pty Ltd
2. Harvey Norman Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
3. Coles Coles Group Ltd (Wesfarmers Ltd)
4. Radio, It's A Love Thing Campaign Commercial Radio Australia Ltd
5. Sportsbet.com.au Sportsbet Pty Ltd

Newcastle Advertisers

1. Domayne Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
2. Harvey Norman Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
3. Climax Suspension Climax Suspension
4. Dial Before You Dig Dial Before You Dig Services Ltd
5. Nobby Kitchens Nobby Kitchens

Perth Advertisers

1. Harvey Norman Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
2. Coles Coles Group Ltd (Wesfarmers Ltd)
3. Radio, It's A Love Thing Campaign Commercial Radio Australia Ltd
4. Peet Peet Ltd
5. Sportsbet.com.au Sportsbet Pty Ltd

Sydney Advertisers

1. Harvey Norman Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd
2. Coles Coles Group Ltd (Wesfarmers Ltd)
3. Bing Lee Bing Lee Electrics Pty Ltd
4. Radio, It's A Love Thing Campaign Commercial Radio Australia Ltd
5. Holden State Of Origin National Rugby League Ltd

Wollongong Ratings

1 I98 23.8 (28.5) WIN
2 Wave FM 16.0 (17.3) GRANT
  • 10+ share Mon-Sun, Survey 1/2014
  • IRIS Research

Wellington Ratings

1 NewstalkZB 15.3 (10.5) TRN
2 The Breeze 13.7 (14.6) Mediaworks
3 ZM 11.3 (12.4) TRN
4 The Sound 7.5 (7.1) Mediaworks
5 The Rock 7.4 (8.3) Mediaworks
6 The Edge 6.6 (8.3) Mediaworks
7 Coast 5.7 (4.6) TRN
  • 10+ share, Survey 1/2014

Warrnambool Ratings

1 Coast FM 37.7 - Ace
2 3YB 21.7 - Ace
3 triple j 7.3 - ABC
4 ABC Local Radio 4.0 - ABC
5 ABC Radio Nat. 2.5 - ABC
6 Classic FM 1.5 - ABC
  • 10+ share Mon-Sun, Survey 1/2015
  • Xtra Research

Sydney Ratings

1 2GB 12.6 (13.0) MRN
2KIIS 1065 8.9(8.7) ARN
3 WSFM 8.2 (7.9) ARN
4ABC 7028.0(9.5)ABC
5Nova 96.9 7.6(7.6)NE
6smoothfm 95.3 7.4(7.3)NE
7triple j6.0(6.5) ABC
  • 10+ share Mon-Sun, Survey 2/2015

Perth Ratings

1 Mix 94.5 13.9 (14.9) SCA
296FM11.3(11.5)ARN
3 Nova 93.711.1 (11.4) NE
4ABC72010.7(10.3)ABC
5triple j 9.2(9.0) ABC
6 6PR 9.0(8.4)Fairfax
792.9 6.5(6.2) SCA
  • 10+ share Mon-Sun, Survey 2/2015
  • 96FM now owned by ARN

Newcastle Ratings

1 KOFM 1563 (15.3) SCA
2 ABC1233 13.6 (11.9) ABC
3NXFM 10.7(11.6) SCA
4 2HD 10.4 (9.8) BOG
5 Triple J 9.9 (9.9) ABC
6New FM8.5(10.0)BOG
7 Classic FM 4.0 (3.) ABC
  • 10+ Share Mon-Sun, Survey 1/2015

 

Melbourne Ratings

1 3AW 15.4 (13.6) Fairfax/MRN
2 ABC 774 10.4 (10.7) ABC
3 Triple M 7.4 (7.4) SCA
4 Fox FM 6.9 (7.6) SCA
5smoothfm 91.5 6.9 (7.2) NE
6 Gold 6.8 (6.9) ARN
7Nova 100 6.7(7.3)NE
8 KIIS 101.1 6.1 (7.1) ARN
  • 10+ share Mon-Sun, Survey 2/2015
  • Mix101.1 now KIIS 101.1 

Gold Coast Ratings

1 Hot Tomato 14.2 (14.1) HT
2 Gold FM 11.9 (14.3) SCA
3 Sea FM 9.6 (9.5) SCA
4 ABC 91.7FM 7.9 (6.7) ABC
5 triple j 7.8 (9.4) ABC
6 ABC612 5.2 (3.3) ABC
7 Radio National 2.5 (2.3) ABC
  • 10+ Share Mon-Sun, Survey 3/2014

 

Christchurch Ratings

1 Newstalk ZB 17.0 (16.1) TRN
2 More FM 10.7 (11.8) Mediaworks
3 The Breeze 10.2 (8.8) Mediaworks
4 The Rock 9.0 (10.3) Mediaworks
5 The Edge 6.9 (6.5) Mediaworks
6 The Sound 6.0 (6.4) Mediaworks
7 Classic Hits 5.7 (5.7) TRN
  • 10+ share, Survey 1/2014

Central Coast Ratings

1 Sea FM 17.7 (12.4) SCA
2 2GO FM 13.2 (17.5) SCA
3 Star 104.5 11.4 (14.3) NE
4 ABC 92.5 10.7 (9.9) ABC
5 2GB 9.8 (8.9) MRN
6 triple j 5.8 (5.2) ABC
7 WSFM 2.8 (0.7) ARN
  • 10+ overall share Mon-Sun, Survey 1/2012
  • Nielsen Media Research

Canberra Ratings

  104.7 18.5 (17.0) SCA
  Mix 106.3 11.6 (15.1) SCA
  ABC666 15.3 (17.4) ABC
  triple j 8.5 (8.1) ABC
  Classic FM 9.3 (9.9) ABC
  2CA 7.0 (5.6) Captial
  2CC 6.0 (6.3) Capital
  Radio National 3.0 (4.0) ABC
  • 10+ share Mon-Sun, Survey 1/2015

 

Brisbane Ratings

197.3FM14.3(14.6)ARN
2Nova 106.9 11.6(10.8)NE
3ABC61210.7(10.7) ABC
4triple j 8.9(9.4) ABC
5 4KQ 8.7 (8.6) ARN
6hit105.3 8.2(9.3) SCA
7Triple M 7.6(8.7) SCA
  • 10+ share Mon-Sun, Survey 2/2015
  • B105 now hit105.3

Auckland Ratings

1 Newstalk ZB 13.4 (13.0) TRN
2 Coast  9.6 (8.1) TRN
3 The Edge 7.8 (6.0) Mediaworks
4 The Breeze 7.0 (6.5) Mediaworks
5 Classic Hits 6.7 (5.9) TRN
6 ZM 5.9 (5.6) TRN
7 Mai FM 5.2 (4.3) TRN
  • 10+ share, Survey 1/2014

Albury Ratings

1 Star FM 22.9* (22.7)** SCA
2 The River 20.7* (27.0)** SCA
3 2AY 16.6* (11.9)** ACE
4 ABC Local Radio 14.0* (11.2)** ABC
5 triple j 9.9* (4.2)** ABC
6 Radio National 2.2* (1.6)** ABC
  • 10+ share Mon-Sun, Survey 1/2014
  • * Xtra Research/ ** Nielsen 

Adelaide Ratings

1 Mix 102.3 13.6 (13.8) ARN
2ABC89112.5(12.5) ABC
3Nova 91.912.0(11.3)NE
4FIVEaa 11.1(10.4)NE
5triple j 9.1 (8.3) ABC
6Triple M 8.4(9.7)NE
7Cruise 13238.3(9.2)ARN
8hit1076.0(5.9) SCA
  • 10+ share Mon-Sun, Survey 2/2015 (GfK)
  • hit107 on-air Oct 2014, was SAFM
CompanyStock IDPriceChange
Southern Cross Media
SXL
1.07
%
APN News & Media
APN
0.865
%
Fairfax Media
FXJ
1.04
%
Macquarie Radio
MRN
1.13
%
Pacific Star Network
PNW
0.310
%
Oceania Capital
OCP
1.18
%
Ten Network
TEN
0.225
%
Seven West Media
SWM
1.22
%
Nine Entertainment
NEC
2.15
%
Prime Media
PRT
0.860
%

 

 

 

Most Commented (All Time)